regarding syllabics post on Raid and Dungeans forums

malice · **Posted:** Tue Oct 11, 2005 10:02 am

Savior` wrote:

all im hearing is wahwahwah. if you look at it, alliance are a more tactical faction then horde, hence why horde are better in pvp, and allaince in pve, shamans are better pvp, pallie pve. there is horde guilds that already downed nef, prolly just gotta use more tactical strats to overcome it. im sure on nef, you cc the mobs with earthbind, really helps out im sure(if you can) but basically you eventually beat the encounters, and move on, might take a little bit more then allaince, but once you do it, it becomes easier.
on a side note i would liek to do a bwl no salvation, but im sure there is ppl that have sandy vag's and dont want to =/

we have priests kite through EB totems via healer aggro.

Snovv · **Joined:** Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:21 pm **Posts:** 52

Syllabic wrote:

Oh, and fear ward is ezmode Nef.

I hate fear ward. It makes fights boring. Onyxia is 100x more exciting as a tank when she can fear you.

Having a spell that completely counters a mob's ability and not having a similar counter available for the other faction is ridiculous.

Disgruntled · **Posted:** Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:58 pm

Snovv wrote:

Syllabic wrote:

Oh, and fear ward is ezmode Nef.

I hate fear ward. It makes fights boring. Onyxia is 100x more exciting as a tank when she can fear you.

Having a spell that completely counters a mob's ability and not having a similar counter available for the other faction is ridiculous.

So you don't use fear ward on Nef?

scrooge · **Joined:** Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:32 pm **Posts:** 66

Disgruntled wrote:

Snovv wrote:

Syllabic wrote:

Oh, and fear ward is ezmode Nef.

I hate fear ward. It makes fights boring. Onyxia is 100x more exciting as a tank when she can fear you.

Having a spell that completely counters a mob's ability and not having a similar counter available for the other faction is ridiculous.

So you don't use fear ward on Nef?

if we could pass stage 1 without everyone being dead (hell if we could get more than 35 people for attempts) then im sure we will be using fear ward for nef. once hes on farm status we might try it differently.

malice · **Posted:** Tue Oct 11, 2005 1:06 pm

we feel you on your attendance woes. your guild makes it to the last encounters in bwl and you would think people would kill to get into the raid...

scrooge · **Joined:** Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:32 pm **Posts:** 66

malice wrote:

we feel you on your attendance woes. your guild makes it to the last encounters in bwl and you would think people would kill to get into the raid...

thats where you guys come into play, please kill nef quick so people will realize were ZOMG NOT #1 GUILD ON TEH SERVAR and well have people log in to down nef.

malice · **Posted:** Tue Oct 11, 2005 1:43 pm

room brought up a good point about the new patch... NO MORE DRAKE BUG OUTS!
should make things MUCH easier with random shadow flames wiping the raid not being a problem anymore. who knows what other suprises this patch will bring :roll:

beebel · **Joined:** Wed Aug 17, 2005 3:32 am **Posts:** 162

malice wrote:

room brought up a good point about the new patch... NO MORE DRAKE BUG OUTS!
should make things MUCH easier with random shadow flames wiping the raid not being a problem anymore. who knows what other suprises this patch will bring :roll:

ebonroc without any shadow of ebonroc fails = gg. those encounters will be silky smooth.

scrooge · **Joined:** Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:32 pm **Posts:** 66

malice wrote:

who knows what other suprises this patch will bring :roll:

+hit no longer capped greatly increasing white dmg on fury warriors and rogues, meaning huge overall increase to dmg.

Samelina · **Posted:** Tue Oct 11, 2005 2:03 pm

The drake taunt fixes and broodlord buffs are a welcome change. Basically there is only 1 cockblock in BWL now and thats Stage 2 Nef.

We did Onyxia last night without fear ward too. FWIW

Snovv · **Joined:** Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:21 pm **Posts:** 52

malice wrote:

we feel you on your attendance woes. your guild makes it to the last encounters in bwl and you would think people would kill to get into the raid...

There definitely are people that would kill to get into the raid. They just arent necessarily in your guild. This is perhaps the major disadvantage of keeping a guild smallish in size -- you wont always get 40 on.

popbox · **Joined:** Sat Nov 20, 2004 12:12 pm **Posts:** 361

Samelina wrote:

Vidar wrote:

AHAHAHAHAHAHA, to quote pop, 'nuff said.

How else you think priests are getting mana back with JoW?

Smite?

Ah, I didn't know dots also contributed to it. Understandable now.

malice · **Posted:** Tue Oct 11, 2005 2:32 pm

now that we have managed to derail this thread :lol:

is the vael despawn timer also taken out today? if so, thats another cockblock removed. and yes new broodlord should be interesting. i look at it more like broodlord without training wheels.

Samelina · **Posted:** Tue Oct 11, 2005 2:46 pm

malice wrote:

now that we have managed to derail this thread :lol:

is the vael despawn timer also taken out today? if so, thats another cockblock removed. and yes new broodlord should be interesting. i look at it more like broodlord without training wheels.

According to the patch notes there is no more Vael timer. Honestly I am glad they buffed broodlord. Having our MT in zerker stance tanking with a 2h for the nerfed broodlord was kind of sad.

scrooge · **Joined:** Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:32 pm **Posts:** 66

well tehy better buff something considering with the drake fix (only hard part of the encounter being the ADD freak outs) and the vael timer removed, the only hard boss is razorgore and nef, i mean jesus, i loved my e-peen cuz of bwl, now its getting all cold water shrinkage on me.

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